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a quarter of a million a year. if mr. obama and the democrats get their way, doing the deal to avoid raising the rates and avoiding the fiscal cliff, where all tax cuts and brakes expire at the end of the year. that is an election, popular at the end of the year, certainly give president obama a lot of clout right now. you can disagree or agree with the policy. that is for you to decide. republican tom cole of oklahoma happens to disagree strongly. at the same time, he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january one, and no one wants to raise taxes on what would amount to 98% of all the taxpayers. >> in my view, we agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that make more than $250,000, we should just take them out of this discuss right now. continue to fight against any rate increases and continue to fight for a much bigger deal. >> congressman cole joins us, the staunchly conservative editorial page of "the wall street journal is on board now. president obama's re-election means that taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. the quest
that there is no mandate for raising tax rates. >> keeping them honest. president obama campaigned and won on letting taxes go up for the top earners. so his victory throws cold water on that claim. democrats gained seats in the senate and on the house. recent cnn polling shows that mosh than two in three people support tax hikes for the wealthy. it is something that republicans will be grapling with from now until new year's day. joining us is congressman cole, a republican. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> your proposal that republican lawmakers should agree with democrats, extend the tax breaks for those making $250,000 a year or less before the end of the year, deal with these tax rates for the wealthiest later, that's an idea that a lot of republicans are resisting. what kind of push back are you getting? >> i think the reaction is mixed. some support is. some don't. i think the issue is simple. i don't believe in raising tax rates on anybody. i think it's bad for the economy, bad for job creation. ultimately by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the president need to come to the tabl
made clear that there is no mandate for raising tax rates. >> keeping them honest. president obama campaigned and won. so his victory throws cold water on that claim. democrats gained seats in the senate and on the house. more than two in three people support tax hikes for the wealthy. it is something that republicans will be grapling with from now until new year's day. >> thank you. >> your proposal that republican lawmakers should agree with democrats should extend tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less later that is an idea that a lot of republicans are reki resisting. what kind of push back are you getting? >> i think some have more questions about it. i don't believe in raising tax rates on anybody. by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the president need to come to the table with real entitlement reform. if we agree that taxes should pt go up on 98% of the people? shoundn't we set that aside now? i think we'll win the argument on the other areas. putting people at risk. is something that we shouldn't do. >> speaker boehner said they need to stick to their position.
in recent days. deputy whip congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he said the gop should agree to obama's proposal to extend bush tax rates for households that make less than $250,000. and they should do that deal right now, deal with the rest later. boehner said no way. and then tom cole said boehner should not offer a counterproposal to the fiscal cliff deal the president presented. boehner offered a proposal yesterday. i asked cole if he's frustrated with john boehner. >> no, not in the least. look, i support the speaker. and we're actually not very far apart on anything. and, you know, at the end of the day, he's going to negotiate a deal. it will probably be a challenging vote for a lot of people. i always support him. i would expect i will again and try and persuade others. just to be clear, i'm not for raising taxes on anybody. i think it's a mistake. i think all republicans believe that. however, you have to recognize the reality that at the end of the month, tax rates for every american that pays income tax are going to go up. so there is an area that we do agree with the presi
think we're nowhere, period. >> thursday treasury secretary tim geithner presented obama's plan, including $1.4 trillion in tax increases. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> president obama also proposed a $16 billion of spending cuts. >> i'm just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> the house speaker says republicans put increased revenues including efforts to close tax loopholes and put the tax cuts on the table instead of raising tax rates for anyone. >> if there's another way to get income from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it. >> those are publicly unchanged deadlines. whether political theater or political reality, there's more to going over the fiscal cliff far beyond hypothetical. >> i think we're going over the clif. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they're unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice we have to make. >> emily joins us live from washington and so ellie, did anyone on
. >> that's the special beer that you would drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. president obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your approval ratings might go up. "outfront" tonight, tom mcclintock of the budget committee. thank you for taking the time. we just showed a lot of your colleagues going home on a wednesday night after working a three-day week. obviously, that's an image that frustrates so many americans. why are people going home before getting this done? >> well, unfortunately, we're not using the standard process where the house passes its version, the is that the passes its version, then a conference committee is very good in revolving impasses like this between the two houses. unfortunately, none of that's being used and i think that's one of the reasons why these things are blocking down now so regularly. we've abandoned a process that works very well when we use it. >> john boehner presented a plan to the president and in that plan, he put $800 billion in revenue from the wealthy on the table. he said he would close loopholes and those people would pay
more than a quarter million dollars a year. mr. obama and the democrats get their way, doing a deal to raise just those rates would avoid the fiscal cliff, where all bush era tax cuts on all tack tax brackets expire at the ends of the year. the election, popular opinion and more give president obama a lot of clout right now. and you can agree or disagree with the president's policy. that's for you to decide. republican congressmen tom cole of oklahoma disagrees stronsly. at the same time, he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january 1st and no one wants to raise taxes on what would amount to 98% of all taxpayers. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of discussion right now. continue to fight against any rate increases, continue to try to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> congressman cole joins us shortly. a rock rib conservative. chair of the national republican congressional committee, and he's no longer a lone voice in the wilderness. the staunchly
there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates. this was treasury secretary geithner earlier today on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all americans get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. so, in some sense it's a tax cut for all americans. >> reporter: bottom line, anderson, we're talking today but still at stalemate. >> yeah, i mean, it's a sign, jessica and dana, of just how lack -- how little progress there's been that a phone call is big news between these two. dana, we're hearing hints of some mo
with raising rates as long as it's part of that package we described. >> a meeting or a phone call between john boehner and president obama, is that at all in the works? >> as far as we know, no. whether it's in the works, we could only hope, at this point we do not have any indication that it is scheduled right now. never mind the principles, we don't have any word that there has been communications between their staff at all. what's flying out of the public still appears to be flying out of private, which is not a lot. >> the members are going home for a nice long weekend. thanks very much for that. president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next yea
'm not quite as sanguine as you are with obama care and the tax rates going up and also the big burden of the debt. but you know, republicans have to have a growth message. and i just don't think they articulated dmind of alternative. david is right. all they talked about was obama's policies aren't working. but if you ask americans today what are republicans for, they don't have a solution. republicans have to talk about choice. charter schools, vouchers, anything that give minorities more opportunities. >> david? >> look, i'm in favor of the republicans being a low tax party. here's the danger. when republicans say taxes, they mean income taxes. 80% of americans now pay more in payroll taxes than they pay in income taxes. payroll taxes will go up at the end of the year. the payroll tax holiday will end. that's a big tax increase for everybody. 80% of americans pay more. and where is the republican plan to hold the line on those people? if taxes only mean the tax, the income tax portion of tax burden for four fifths of the country, you're talking about something that doesn't matter th
.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people pretty much told a lot of us they were confident it was going to be a long night and that they would win. i want to read you something from the new republic about team romney's internal polling. says the biggest flaw in their polling was the failure to predict the demographic composition of the electorate. the people who showed up to vote on november 6 were younger and less white than team romney anticipated and far more democratic as a result. so i want to ask you, erick, is this sort of a misunderstanding generally that republicans have to address the next time they go into an election about who the voters are going
of letting tax rates for those at the top -- the lower tax rates expire for those at the top, there is a mandate. polling has been consistent for years, and we saw in the exit poll. 60% of voters overall, and more importantly, 80% of obama voters is more unified democratic coalition support letting the tax rates expire. that's why i think you see democrats -- that's why you see democrats being much more adamant on that, certainly than they were in 2010. look, i think the country wants a zeal, and like ryan, i think we're going to get a deal. at some point in the next six months, we're going to end up with a tax rate for those at the top that is higher than it is now, but lower than it was under bill clinton. it's going to be messy getting there, but a higher rate for those at the top seems to be an inevitable outcome of this. >> speaking of messy, the progressives love to get on the bandwagon on that one issue. what are they going to do when the president starts moving against entitlements? >> well, you know, what's interesting on that, republicans gambled and lost, i think i
in savings when it comes to tax revenue. but much of that came from raising tax rates for the wealthiest americans, which of course is what president obama campaigned on. so those are the big differences right now. but this certainly is important, wolf, because republicans were saying that they're not even sure that this ball was in their court. clearly they realized it was. so the talks -- there is stalemate no more, put it that way. >> on this key issue of marginal tax rates for the wealthy, the republican offer is keep the tax rates exactly as they are right now, 35% for that 2% wealthiest families making more than $250,000. the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raisin
, as well as increase in the rates, a down payment as president obama talked about and we need to spend next year on some of the larger issues. >> it always comes down to the last few weeks in a tough situation we knew was coming. >> you're right, it is frustrating that the republicans are still digging their heels in and refuse to recognize that whatever plan we come up with, and we do have to have fairness and balance and it has to work mathematically and their plan does not. >> the president had nice words to say about you in nominating you for another term. you have a lot going on. >> we have a lot going on in the country and i'm privileged and honored to be with the president to continue to serve. >> we'll take a quick break. lots more news right after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. this season, discover aleve. i've been a superintendent for 30 some years at many different park service units across the united states. the only time i've ever had a break is when i
the answer to that question. what he's trying to do is to mitigate the damage that obama would do with these massive increases in rates. impasse is not an option. means everybody's taxes go up, but if the president has his way, taxes are going to go up on those very wealthy folks making over $200,000, but most are not very wealthy or folks, most are small businesses filing subchapter "s" companies, about 88% of net small business income will be for these taxes when we're depending on them to create two-thirds of the new jobs. boehner's trying to mitigate that mess. i wish him luck. something's going to f to have to give. >> something is going to have to give. from everybody i've talked to and from what we've heard, there two options for the country. one, go over the cliff. the other, extend the bush tax cuts for the 98% of americans. everyone who makes under $200,000 a year if they're single, $250,000 if they're a family. those seem to be the two choices. between those, which do you pick? >> but, if we do that and raise the taxes on those small businesses we were just talking abou
that obama says he's adamant about, what he was elected on, as he says, which is this basic tax rate going up by say 3%? do you think they are going to end in the end have to acquiesce to that? >> i sort of do think they will because in certain ways from the republican perspective, you could argue that the smartest thing to do is to, you know, vote, vote to extend all the bush tax cuts, let president obama veto that extension, then vote a middle class tax cut and let the top bracket expire, and then republicans can say look, we didn't really break our pledge. taxes were going to go up across the board. we did what we could do and the president wouldn't let us do more. but i also think that president obama sees a real percentage for him in getting republicans to cross the line of agreeing to a rate increase. and that's why i think he's pushing so hard on this. i think most economists would agree that there is often more advantages in capping deductions than in just going for the rates, but i think there's a real political advantage for democrats looking ahead to battle after battle that we'll
? how much do we get from expenditures? how much more do we need? how much does obama care add? what is our growth rate? you know, we don't have a plan. >> yeah. >> and we're throwing these dollar numbers around like if they were nothing. >> i spoke with james clyburn, representative clyburn last hour, about the notion of raising tax rates on the wealthy and not where the president wants them. he said i want it higher. take a listen and then talk about it. >> we know where the president is. and that is 250,000. but there are a lot of democrats who voiced back before the campaign 500,000. some say even a million. all of that's going to be negotiated. the president wants 250. if mr. boehner wants to come and offer something different, i'm sure he'll do that but the president stands at 250. which is below even where i was but he won the election. >> do you think that's where the compromise is, have it at a higher rate, somewhere in there? >> i think what needs to happen is for the democrats to come forward with ideas for expenditures. because if not, what he's asking for is for speaker
, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's not where he used to be. he's quadrupled the amount of taxes he demands. he now has to have rates instead of just numbers. it's going to be interesting what he is doing but it appears he's not trying to come to any agreement. his position is one that the senate, the democratic senate, has rejected in the past. >> robert reish, 60% of americans according to a new abc news/"the washington post" poll believes they should raise taxes on those over $250,000 a year. presumably president obama has seen these polls. so if there is a fiscal cliff and we go over it, the american public are likely to blame the republicans.
that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an incredibly popular position. it's important for republicans to know that the white house is not going to accept any kind of a deal. that's the point he was trying to make. i think all the leverage now is with the demo
know, president obama insi insists there is no deal to present on the top 2% of earners. >> it doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. all of those americans too get a tax cut on that finramework. in some sense it is a tax cut for all americans. >> bottom line, we are talking today but we are still at stalemate. a phone call is big news between these two. >> we are hearing about senate republicans, what are you hearing, how significant is it. it is significant for a couple of reasons. these three republicans in different ways suggested that they would be okay with what most republicans are saying that they are not okay with. raising tax rates for the wealthy. he is the most conservative not just fiscally. the way these things tend to go, is that there is a little bit of a crack and that tends to send the other cracks into what is now a solid opposition and we will see how that goes. we are talking about senate republicans and the key thing that we have to watch is house republicans. if something can't get through the house, then it can't get through congress. >> david, what
rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> in raw politics, with the country one day closer to the fiscal cliff, president obama took his case to the public today. he used an event in pennsylvania to rachet up the pressure on republicans to freeze taxes for the middle class while allowing the tax rates on the wealthy to go up. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> hm. in other words, the day after the white house puts its opening bid on the table, the president comes out swinging. that opening bid didn't have a whole lot of concessions in it to the republicans, and the republicans reacted as many would have predicted. they were mad. basically saying that offer was an insult. today, house speaker john boehner doubled down. >> it was not a serious proposal. and so right now, we're almost nowhere. >> that doesn't sound good. re
of revenues but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates, and when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> president obama telling bloomberg tv the republicans' math just doesn't work. of course, the gop is delivering the same message about the white house plan. today, a bipartisan group of governors went to the white house and capitol hill, urging both sides to make a deal. two of those governors join me now. governor gary herbert of utah and jack markell of delaware, chair of the national governors association. welcome to you both. interesting day for you because you managed to talk to the president and john boehner, when they can't be bothered to talk to each other. so what did you discover? let me start with you, governor herbert. what was your take on the two meetings? >> well, we were honored to be invited. i think too many times, the states and governors have been overlooked and underappreciated and almost a second thought when it comes to some policies made so i applaud jack's leadership in getting us together in a bipartisan way through the national governors associatio
, which president obama has called a nonstarter. so what if we raised taxes a little bit? still be much lower than what americans paid just a generation ago. in 1980, the wealthiest americans paid a marginal tax rate of 70% of their income to uncle sam. now, tax reform under president reagan reduced that rate to 50% and in 1981, and closer to current levels in 1986. today, president obama wants to let the bush era tax cuts expire for wealthy americans only, taking up their marginal federal tax rate from 36% to 39.6%. we're talking about a 3.6 percentage point uptick for households making more than $250,000 a year, only on every dollar they make above the $250,000 amount. starts 2 s at $251,000. it is on the money you make on the margin. now, while i totally agree every penny counts when it comes to your money, when you compare that to the taxes most americans paid out in past decades, when there was phenomenal economic growth, i don't get why republicans are screaming bloody murder about this 3.6%. what if we were all to chip in a little more. we need taxes, we need government programs,
to understand is that tax rates are going up on january 1 within obama care. so we're talking about almost a trillion dollars of increases in taxes and fees. >> let's not talk about the democrats for a moment. let's not even talk about what the president's put on the table. let's talk about the republicans. give me specific cuts that republicans would be behind. because we're really short on specifics from the gop. lay out for me, here's what we're willing to cut in terms of entitlements. put it on the table. >> look, there's been a plan in terms of indexing the increases. we are going to have to find a way to reduce the gap between how much medicare costs per person and how much we pay. because it's not going to last. it's going to go broke. >> so let me bring in nan for a second, then. forgive me for cutting you off. tick off for me. as you know, one of the biggest criticisms from the dems, the republicans as much as they're flabbergasted and shock and amazed and -- >> of course we are, dosoledad. the simpson/bowles commission 3-1 expenses to taxes. the plan president boehner sent at 2-1
party established themselves as the party that was willing to let americans entire credit rating go down the tubes in order to stop barack obama last year. it's very clear that most people are going to see them as being the party that's being more obstinate. the truth of the matter is they also because they lost so badly in the election, nobody wants to be seen playing footsie with barack obama under the table which is what they're going to have to do to get this deal done. the republican party is going tond up being blamed which is one of the reasons they will have to compromise more. it's the same thing the democrats did when bush won. you have to compromise with the party that just won. jason johnson, john brabender, thank you thank you both. >>> the new york film critics have made their choices for top films and many times they end up as oscar favorites. all the details next. all the details next. we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of tim and laura. it's amazing how appreciative ople are when you tell them they could save a lot of money on their car insurance by switch
to get more money from wealthy people. president obama, you know the deal, he wants to raise tax rates for the wealthy. house speaker john boehner wants to close tax loopholes, limit deductions for the wealthy. let's stay on the hill here, let's talk to senior congressional correspondent dana bash. we know the speaker -- we know speaker boehner met with conservative republicans today. did he get any backlash today from his plan? >> reporter: you know what, interestingly it doesn't seem like he did. we know that conservatives are not happy with the idea that their own house republican leadership proposed a plan that includes $800 billion in new revenue. we have seen -- reported on it extensively yesterday and the day before about the e-mail alerts that conservative groups have put out, republican senator jim demint was up-front about the fact he's not happy about it. however, when it comes to speaker boehner's own republican conference, as it is called, we're told they met for an hour and there wasn't backlash, that they were united behind him. it seems as though, brooke, that the speak
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. the city is on its way to having the lowest homicide rate since 1960. >>> for the first time since the election, president barack obama and mitt romney will meet face to face. the two candidates will have lunch at the white house in a few hours. before lunch, he will meet with his former running mate congressman paul ryan. >>> if you're wondering what's on that lunch menu, how about a healthy dose of humble pie for two politicians who dished out and received some pretty good beatdowns over the last several months? joining me now, cnn political analyst, roland martin, who leans left. go ahead, lean left. >> and cnn contributor will cain. >> a circle. >> you kill me. everyone knows it's political theater. americans aren't stupid. why put us through this, will? >> i think it's symbolically healthy. first of all, president obama said he wanted to do it. fulfilling that promise has value. i think to show the american people that politics is politics and people are people and there are things we can come together over, like food. hey, by the way, roland martin and i, who agree on very li
credit rating. got some good news from automakers. november was the best month for u.s. auto sales since january 2008. >>> our fourth story, showdown. john boehner today gave president obama a taste of his own medicine, putting out his proposal. i spoke with tom coburn this hour and he said the deal boehner's put on the table is the best compromise out there. listen. >> i'm certain that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> if you read though, the boehner proposal carefully, no tax rate increases, which we know is a nonstarter for the president. so where does that leave us? john avlon is here to help us read through the lines of the deal, also crunch some of those numbers. first, we're talking about the $800 billion figure. that's in the lert john boehner wrote to the president. >> right. there is no numbers breaking that down. it's a where's the beef question. bumper sticker, we have the numbers but no details. boehner's aides will say that's where the negotiations come in. the devil's in the details. they'll say look, to achieve these reve
split or the fiscal cliff because president obama's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff is not exactly flying with republicans. 32 days now count with me 32 tax rates soar, spending cuts automatically kick in and keep in mind there is a date that we're watching also before this, congress break for the holidays in all of 14 days. >> so to review the president's plan calls for $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and $400 billion in unspecified cuts. the president for himself he's heading to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania today to try to sell that idea. house speaker john boehner's reaction was essentially, get serious. so we want to talk about the numbers behind this. we're going to bring in ken rogoff, professor of economics and public policy at harvard university. you heard the specifics of the plan, $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $400 billion in unspecified cuts, $50 billion in new stimulus. how does this sound to you? >> well, it certainly sounds like a plan. and i do think we have to see some mix of higher revenues starting now and frankly going on into th
's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. >> want to get to stephanie cutter former deputy campaign manager for obama 2012. stephanie, nice to have you with us this morning. appreciate your time as always. you're the -- >> thanks for having me. >> that was your old job. the former campaign manager. feels like the campaign is not over. the president has been on the road selling, you know, campaigning on this topic. on monday he didn't have any meetings about the fiscal cliff. on tuesday he was talking to the governors of six states. today, wednesday, he'll be addressing the business roundtable. there are some folks who have said why is he having all these meetings and not just sitting down with john boehner. the two need to get in a room and work this out. why not that? >> well, there are plenty of conversations going on, but soledad, we've been in this place before. unless republicans are willing to come to the table wait real proposal, not what they came to the table with this week, then those discussions aren't going to bear a lot of frui
tweeted breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger that middle class deductions get hit. and he signed the tweet b.o. we mean, everybody, the president, barack obama, actually wrote that one. our money embroiled in fiscal cliff. >>> still ahead on "starting point," what's next for hillary clinton when she leaves the administration. mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's inv
. this is something started under president bush, continued under president obama's administration. what does it involve? >> let's talk about why she did this. in the speech she talked about the improvements and lower incidence of hiv and terrific and death rates are going down but still, there is more than a million and a half people dying every year from hiv and aids and that's -- that has to be addressed and talked about a couple of things she wants to see get done. >> sure. >> first of all she would like to see increased mail s circumcisi circumcision. that's voluntary, i should add. increased generic drug use. get those drugs out to the people that need them and also she wants to see condom use promoted more and more distributed so, you know, that's been sort of a controversial thing in many countries. she was very specific about this. >> where do we stand coming to hiv and aids? how does it differ place to place or group to group? >> sub saharant africa has suffered the most. in this country we see too many people dying of hiv and aids and many people with the disease don't know they ha
, not necessarily raising the marginal tax rate on the wealthy, but capping deductions, limiting loopholes, are you with the speaker of the house on that? >> unfortunately, wolf, the policies of president obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as far as taxes are concerned? >> how we go about tax reform, there's a lot of room to work together to lower the rates
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